Mini Spookysode: What Happens to Your Body After You Die?

This week, Katie is bewitched with what happens to your body after you die. 

From the time you take your last breath to the time you are placed in the ground or an urn, the process and care your human form receives is something of a mystery. Mortuary science is a secretive field, and few people know what goes on behind the scenes in a funeral home. The air of mystery surrounding the very natural end of life only adds to the general fear of death. In this episode, we take you through the process your earthly remains will go through from their transport to the morgue to their final resting place, be that a cemetery or deepest space. 

Recommended reading:

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes and Other Lessons From the Crematory by Caitlin Doughty

Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach

Mortuary Confidential: Undertakers Spill the Dirt by Todd Harra and Ken McKenzie

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Episode 22: 910.91634- Titanic Part 2

This week Katie and Hailee continue to be bewitched by the Titanic. 

In the second half of this two-part series, we go minute-by-minute through the timeline of the sinking and bemoan all the mistakes that led to the massive loss of life. We also discuss the aftermath of the tragedy, including its influence on pop culture and the completely bizarre salvage plans that were cooked up through the decades to drag the wreck out of the depths of the ocean…before it was even discovered in 1985! We also talk about some myths associated with Titanic, and explore some shipwreck-related ghost stories. 

This will be the concluding episode for our first season. We cannot thank you enough for your support and listenership. We’re already hard to work researching for season 2! 

Books mentioned in this episode (all can be purchased in our bookshop):

Fear Street Series by R.L. Stine

The Loss of the SS Titanic by Lawrence Beesley

The Truth About the Titanic by Archibald Gracie

Titanic and Other Ships by Charles Lightoller

A Night to Remember by Walter Lord

The Discovery of the Titanic by Robert Ballard

The Wreck of the Titan: Futility by Morgan Robertson

The Midnight Watch by David Dyer

Women and Children First by Gill Paul

The Watch That Ends the Night by Allan Wolf

The Deep by Alma Katsu

882 1/2 Amazing Answers to Your Questions About the Titanic by Hugh Brewster and Laurie Coulter

History Smashers: The Titanic by Kate Messner

Titanic: A Journey Through Time by John P. Eaton and Charles A. Haas


“Are Titanic Exhibits Around The Country Haunted By The Spirits Of 1500 People?” Titanic Universe RSS, 

“British Wreck Commissioner’s Inquiry.” TIP | British Wreck Commissioner’s Inquiry | Report, 

“Carpathia’s Role in Titanic’s Rescue.” The Maritime Executive, The Maritime Executive, 1 June 2015, 

“CORRECTED-Fact Check-J.P. Morgan Did Not Sink the Titanic to Push Forward Plans for the U.S. Federal Reserve.” Reuters, Thomson Reuters, 17 Mar. 2021, 

Grossman, David. “There’s a Wild Conspiracy Theory That the Titanic Never Sank.” Popular Mechanics, 10 Mar. 2021, 

“The Jane Street Hotel in New York City– Haunted by Titanic Survivors and Victims.” Titanic Universe RSS, 

Little, Becky. “The Craziest Titanic Conspiracy Theories, Explained.”, A&E Television Networks, 28 Nov. 2018, 

Mikkelson, Barbara. “Did a Cursed Mummy Sink with the Titanic?”, 27 Feb. 2021, 

“News Reaction in the Wake of the Titanic Sinking.” Digital Firefly Marketing, 8 Aug. 2018, 

“Replica Titanic.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 18 June 2021, 

Snyder, Nancy. “The Ghostly Residents of the Famed Literary Hotel Chelsea.” BOOK RIOT, 28 Oct. 2018, 

“Titanic Disaster Hearings: The Official Transcripts of the 1912 Senate Investigation.” U.S. Senate: Titanic Disaster Hearings: The Official Transcripts of the 1912 Senate Investigation, 21 May 2018, 

“Titanic in Popular Culture.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 6 July 2021, 

Trickey, Erick. “Fact-Checking QAnon Conspiracy Theories: Did J.P. Morgan Sink the Titanic?” The Washington Post, WP Company, 12 June 2020, 

“The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 2 July 2021,,_Futility. 

Episode 21: 910.91634-Titanic (part 1)

This week Hailee and Katie are bewitched by the Titanic. 

Is it just us, or does EVERY kid go through a Titanic phase? An adolescent infatuation spurred on by Kate Winslet and Leonardo Dicaprio leaving handprints on a steamy car window has morphed into an adult obsession with the story and impact of the Titanic. In our first ever collaborative episode (and part one of our season 1 finale), we explore the history of TransAtlantic travel, the construction of the “ship of dreams,” life onboard the ship, and the crew and passengers who made the doomed vessel an integral part of Western history and culture. 

Before this ill-fated beauty slips below the freezing waters of the Atlantic, let’s revel in her grandeur and innovation. 

Books mentioned in this episode:

The Comfort Book by Matt Haig

The Unhoneymooners by Christina Lauren

Beach Read by Emily Henry


“About Margaret ‘Molly’ Brown.” Molly Brown House Museum, 22 June 2021, 

“Did The Age Of Sail End? Part 1: Sail Gives Way To Steam.” National Parks Service, U.S. Department of the Interior, 

“Edward J. Smith.”, A&E Networks Television, 27 Apr. 2021,

Encyclopedia Titanica. “Lawrence Beesley : Titanic Survivor.” Encyclopedia Titanica, 28 July 2017, 

“First-Class Facilities of the Titanic.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 25 June 2021, 

“Here’s What the Most Expensive Ticket on the Titanic Would Have Bought You.” Money, 

“Inside Titanic – Ultimate Titanic.” Ultimate Titanic – Titanic History, Facts and Teaching Resources, 25 Apr. 2021,

“John Jacob Astor IV.”, A&E Networks Television, 13 Apr. 2021, 

“Lillian Augusta Goodwin: Titanic Wiki.” Fandom, 

Long, Kat. “The Monster Ships That Changed How We Travel.” BBC Future, BBC, 

Louden-Brown, Paul. “Titanic – Food For All Classes.” Titanic Stories – History of Titanic – Titanic Belfast, 

“Millvina Dean.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 19 June 2021, 

“Musicians of the Titanic.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 13 May 2021, 

“Overview of Transatlantic Travel – Ocean Passenger Travel.” Overview of Transatlantic Travel | GG Archives, 

“Provisions & Cargo on the RMS Titanic.” Edited by Gjenvick-Gjønvik Archives – GG Archives, Provisions & Cargo on the RMS Titanic | GG Archives,

“RMS Titanic Manifests and Passenger Lists.” Edited by Gjenvick-Gjønvik Archives – GG Archives, RMS Titanic Manifests and Passenger Lists | GG Archives,

“Second- and Third-Class Facilities on the Titanic.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 17 June 2021, 

“Shipbuilding: 1800–Present.” Shipbuilding: 1800–Present | Royal Museums Greenwich, 

“Thomas Byles.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 12 July 2021,

“Violet Jessop.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 24 May 2021,

Whitaker, Jan. “Isidor Straus.” Immigrant Entrepreneurship, German Historical Institute, 22 Aug. 2018, 

Wilson, Andrew. “Why the Titanic Still Fascinates Us.”, Smithsonian Institution, 1 Mar. 2012, 

Episode 20: 133.42 – The Amityville Horror (pt. 2)

In this two-part episode, Hailee is bewitched with the Amityville Horror.Since the 1970s, the beautiful dutch colonial house on 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville, NY has been full of tragedy and speculation. Starting with the brutal slaying of the DeFeo family in 1974 to the shocking tales of demonic activity in the home afterward to the numerous books, movies, and TV shows made in the aftermath, this house has become one of, if not the most infamous house in America. In part two, Hailee breaks down the paranormal investigations that took place in the home, gives a brief career overview of investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren, and talks about some of the coincidences and legends associated with the home. 

Recommended titles (all available in our bookshop):

  • Home Before Dark by Riley Sager
  • Amity by Micol Ostow
  • The Haunted House Diaries: The True Story of a Quiet Connecticut Town in the Center of a Paranormal Mystery by William Hall
  • Ghostland: An American History in Haunted Places by Colin Dickey
  • The Night the Defeo’s Died by Ric Osuna


Amityville Files


Osuna, R. (n.d.). The DeFeo Family. Amityville Murders.

Osuna, R. (n.d.). The Real Story of 112 Ocean Ave. Amityville Murders.

Wikipedia. (n.d.). Amityville, New York. Wikipedia.,_New_York

Episode 19: 133.42 – The Amityville Horror (pt. 1)

In this two part episode, Hailee is bewitched with the Amityville Horror.

Since the 1970s, the beautiful dutch colonial house on 112 Ocean Avenue in Amityville, NY has been full of tragedy and speculation. Starting with the brutal slaying of the DeFeo family in 1974 to the shocking tales of demonic activity in the home afterwards to the numerous books, movies and TV shows made in the aftermath, this house has become one of, if not the most infamous house in America. In part one, Hailee will talk about the history of the home, the murder of the DeFeo family and the haunting experiences of the Lutz family who moved in just a year after the murders.

Recommended titles (all available in our bookshop):

  • A Cuban Girl’s Guide to Tea and Tomorrow Laura Taylor Namey
  • Untamed by Glennon Doyle
  • The Night the DeFeo’s Died by Ric Osuna
  • The Amityville Horror by Jay Anson


Amityville Files

Amityville Murders

Butch DeFeo’s Written Statement


Osuna, R. (n.d.). The DeFeo Family. Amityville Murders.

Osuna, R. (n.d.). The Real Story of 112 Ocean Ave. Amityville Murders.

Wikipedia. (n.d.). Amityville, New York. Wikipedia.,_New_York

Episode 18: 291.9-The Duggar Family (Part 2)

In this week’s episode, Katie continues to be bewitched by the Duggar family.

Part two of our expose on one of the world’s most famous mega-families will reveal the Duggars’ long list of scandals. From transphobic tweets that result in members being removed from filming, to infidelity, corporal punishment, and misuse of charity funds, we look at the moments that shook the foundation of the Duggar fanbase.

We also devote some time to the most disappointing Duggar of all, Joshua. Josh’s long history of alarming and destructive behaviors have finally caught up to him in a way that can’t be quietly solved with a trip to a prayer-based “recovery center.” We’ll pinpoint all the red flags and utter failures along the way.

Recommended titles (all available in our bookshop):

Love Makes a Family by Sophie Beer

Felix Ever After by Kacen Callender

The Queen’s English: The LGBTQIA+ Dictionary of Lingo and Colloquial Phrases by Chloe O. Davis

Real Queer America: LGBT Stories from Red States by Samantha Allen

Drama by Raina Telgemeier

Lumberjane series by Noelle Stevenson, Shannon Watters, and Brooke Allen

Julian is a Mermaid by Jessica Love

Educated by Tara Westover

Stolen Innocence: My Story of Growing Up in a Polygamous Sect, Becoming a Teenage Bride, and Breaking Free of Warren Jeffs by Elissa Wall and Lisa Pulitzer

Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith by Jon Krakauer

Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as one of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lives to Take it All (Or Almost All) of it Back by Frank Schaeffer

The Patron Saint of Butterflies by Cecilia Galante

The Incendiaries by R.O. Kwon

The Leftovers by Tom Perrotta

Survivor by Chuck Palahniuk


Bowerman, Mary. “Timeline: Duggar Sex-Abuse Scandal.” USA Today, Gannett Satellite Information Network, 20 Aug. 2015, 

Carpenter, Perry. “’Counting On’: The 10 Biggest Scandals That Have Rocked the Duggar Family.” Showbiz Cheat Sheet, 12 May 2020, 

“Derick Dillard Fuels Jim Bob Duggar Feud Rumors With Cryptic Tweets.” In Touch Weekly, 18 Oct. 2019, 

Emily. “Did the Duggars Fake a Food Bank Donation for 19 Kids and Counting?”,, 1 May 2015, 

Feinberg, Ashley. “Family Values Activist Josh Duggar Had a Paid Ashley Madison Account.” Gawker, 19 Aug. 2015, 

Fisher, Luchina. “Anna Duggar Opens Up About ‘Betrayal’ by Husband Josh Duggar.” ABC News, ABC News Network, 21 Dec. 2015, 

Jensen, Erin. “TLC Severs Ties with Derick Dillard Following More Tweets about Jazz Jennings.” USA Today, Gannett Satellite Information Network, 13 Nov. 2017, 

Medina, Daniella. “Josh Duggar Released from Jail Thursday. What We Know about the Charges and Pending Trial.” Times Record, Fort Smith Times Record, 6 May 2021, 

“Quiet and Still: Teaching Self-Control.” Duggar Family Blog: Duggar Updates | Duggar Pictures | Jim Bob and Michelle | Counting On | 19 Kids, 27 Jan. 2012, 

Rude, Mey. “This Duggar Can’t Stop Transphobic Attacks on Jazz Jennings.” OUT, Out Magazine, 13 Sept. 2019, 

“Screen Accountability™ Software.” Covenant Eyes, 20 May 2021, 

Weiler, Lauren. “Why Jill Duggar and Derick Dillard Have Been Accused of Scamming Fans for Money.” Showbiz Cheat Sheet, 19 Apr. 2019, 

Weinberg, Lindsay. “Everything Jill Duggar and Derick Dillard Have Said About Their Estranged Family Relationship.” E! Online, 22 Oct. 2020, 

Ep. 17: 291.9- The Duggar Family (part one)

To their adoring fans, the Duggar family is a close-knit, super-sized Christian family intent on raising their brood under a stringent set of beliefs and rules. But when we dig below the surface, we find so much more. From their affiliation with Bill Gothard’s predatory Institute of Basic Life Principles, to their deeply sexist rules for their daughters, to their bizarre and troubling homeschool curriculum, the Duggar family’s problems run deeper than just floor-length denim skirts and parent-supervised dates. 

Join us in this first part of a two-episode look at everything you wish you didn’t know about the Duggar family. 

Recommended Titles from this episode:

What Riley Wore by Elana K. Arnold and Linda Davick

All Out: The No-Longer-Secret Stories of Queer Teens Throughout the Ages by Saundra Mitchell

This is How it Always Is by Laurie Frankel

Simon Vs. The Homosapien Agenda by Becky Albertalli

Leah on the Offbeat by Becky Albertalli

Kate in Waiting by Becky Albertalli

You Should See Me in a Crown by Leah Johnson

All sources:

“Can Taking the Pill Cause a Miscarriage?” Edited by Cara DiPasquale and Michael Morgan,, 4 Sept. 2018, 

Cardoza, Riley. “The Duggars: A Comprehensive Guide to the Famous Family.” Us Weekly, 30 Apr. 2021, 

Feinburg, Ashley. “Lawsuit: Ten Women Charge Duggar Homeschool Leader with Sexual Abuse.” Gawker, 6 Jan. 2016, 

Francese, Andrea. “’Counting On’: How Did the Duggar Family Initially Get on Television?” Showbiz Cheat Sheet, 20 Oct. 2019, 

Hawkins, Kayla. “What Church Do the Duggars Go To? There Are a Few Different Answers & One Is Extremely Disturbing.” Bustle, Bustle, 23 Sept. 2014, 

Institute in Basic Life Principles, 1 June 2021, 

Ngo , Sheiresa. “Here’s How the Duggars Really Make Their Money.” Showbiz Cheat Sheet, 4 Apr. 2019, 

Pease, Joshua. “The Fundamentalist Trap.” The New Republic, 22 Oct. 2018, 

Radford, Lyra. “Normal Things That Are Totally Off-Limits For The Duggars.” Ranker, 

Schmidt, David. “20 Rules The Duggar Daughters Have To Follow.” TheThings, 9 Sept. 2019, 

Shore, John. “The Fundamentally Toxic Christianity.” HuffPost, HuffPost, 12 Nov. 2012, 

Smith, Bryan. “The Cult Next Door.” Chicago Magazine, 

White, Tiffany. “14 Kids and Counting: Rewatching the Duggars’ TV Debut.” In Touch Weekly, 14 May 2018, 

Wisdom Booklet 4. Advanced Training Institute International, 

Ep. 16: 791.43 – Legends and lore behind cursed films

In this episode, Hailee is bewitched with the legends and lore behind cursed films.

What is a curse? Some of the earliest curses are found in Egyptian Execration texts, which were tablets listing the enemies of the pharaoh. Essentially, a curse is any expressed wish that some form of adversity or misfortune will befall or attach to one or more persons, a place, or an object. Throughout history, people have promoted stories of curses for a variety of reasons. You can find curses just about anywhere, from religious superstitions to sports fans wearing a certain jersey because they think it will help their team win…to films and television! There are a number of films that hold the description of being cursed. Accidents and deaths on set, bad luck that seems to follow anyone associated with certain films, and so much more. In this episode, Hailee will discuss the real events, legends, and lore behind several cursed films and you can decide for yourself…are curses real? 

Recommended Media

  • Cursed Films series on Shudder
  • Harrow Lake by Kat Ellis
  • The Remaking by Clay Mcleod Chapman
  • Plain Bad Heroines by Emily Danforth

If you’re interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our affiliate shop


Antrum – Cursed Horror with Grim History

12 Cursed Movies

I Watched A Cursed Film During Quarantine

6 Famous Curses Through History

The Lee Family Curse


Colburn, R. (2020, June 10). Facts And Theories About ‘Atuk,’ A Cursed Script That Killed Every Actor Attached. Ranker. Editors. (2009, November 13). This Day in History: Actor and martial-arts expert Bruce Lee dies at age 32. History.,at%20Seattle’s%20Lake%20View%20Cemetery.

Kurland, D. (2016, April 19). Looking at the Horrible, Cursed Production of ‘The Omen’! Bloody Disgusting.

Little, B. (n.d.). 6 Famous Curses Through History. Retrieved May 27, 2021, from

McKendry, D. I. (2015, December 2). Is THE EXORCIST Cursed? Seven Reasons Why Some Think the Film is Haunted. 13th Floor., B., Nicholas, A., Smith, M., & Perlmutter, L. (Executive Producers). (2020). Cursed Films [TV series]. Shudder.

Episode 15: 917.5924- Myths and Legends of Disney World

In this episode of The Reference Desk, Katie is bewitched by the myths and legends of Disney World. 

Known around the globe as “the happiest place on Earth,” Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida is a vacation destination like no other. This sprawling property is home to four unique theme parks, a host of themed accommodations, hundreds of restaurants, and a world of carefully-curated experiences. But are there secrets lurking beneath the surface? 

Was Walt Disney cryogenically frozen and kept in suspended animation beneath one of his most beloved attractions?

Is an uncontainable flesh-eating bacteria the real reason for the sudden, quiet closure of a wildly popular water park? And is it true that no one dies on Disney property? We explore these myths and more in this magical episode. 

Recommended books:

Manacled by SenLinYu

Disney War by James B. Stewart 

It’s Kind of a Cute Story by Rolly Crump and Jeff Heimbuch 

The Disney Story: Chroniciling the Man, the Mouse, and the Parks  by Aaron H. Goldberg

The Art of Disney Costuming: Heroes, Villains, and Spaces Between by Jeff Kurtti 

Maps of the Disney Parks: Charting 60 Years from California to Shanghaiby Kevin and Susan Neary

Cleaning the Kingdom: Insider Tales of Keeping Walt’s Dream Spotless by Ken Pellman and Lynn Barron

Ink and Paint: The Women of Walt Disney’s Animation by Mindy Johnson

Secret Stories of Walt Disney World series by Jim Korkis


“Abandoned: The Rise, Fall and Decay of Disney’s River Country.” Theme Park Tourist, 28 Feb. 2020, 

Barkley, Brad, and Heather Hepler. Dream Factory. Speak, 2009. 

Blatty, David. “Is Walt Disney’s Body Frozen?”, A&E Networks Television, 3 Mar. 2020, 

Crump, Rolly, and Jeff Heimbuch. It’s Kind of a Cute Story. Bamboo Forest Publishing, 2012. 

Doctorow, Cory. Down and out in the Magic Kingdom. Tor, 2018. 

Goldberg, Aaron H. The Disney Story: Chronicling the Man, the Mouse, and the Parks. Quaker Scribe Publishing, 2016. 

Johnson, Mindy. Ink & Paint the Women of Walt Disney’s Animation. Disney Editions, 2017. 

Korkis, Jim, and Sam Gennawey. Secret Stories of Walt Disney World: Things You Never Knew You Never Knew. Theme Park Press, 2015. 

Kurtti, Jeff. The Art of Disney Costuming Heroes, Villains, and Spaces Between. Disney Editions, 2019. 

“List of Incidents at Walt Disney World.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 28 Apr. 2021, 

Margaritoff, Marco. “The Inside Story Of Walt Disney’s Secret Tunnels Beneath The Magic Kingdom.” All That’s Interesting, All That’s Interesting, 16 Apr. 2021, 

Menyes, Carolyn. “Park Secrets Disney Doesn’t Want You to Know.” The Daily Meal, The Daily Meal, 5 July 2019, 

Mikkelson, David. “Fact Check: Does No One Ever Die at Disney Parks?”, 24 Dec. 2017, 

Mikkelson, David. “Fact Check: Was Walt Disney Frozen?”, 14 Apr. 2021, 

Neary, Kevin, et al. Maps of the Disney Parks: Charting 60 Years from California to Shanghai. Disney Editions, 2016. 

Pearson, Ridley. Kingdom Keepers. Disney/Hyperion Books, 2012. 

Pellman, Ken, and Lynn Barron. Cleaning the Kingdom: Insider Tales of Keeping Walt’s Dream Spotless. Synergy Books Publishing, 2015. 

Snook, Ann. “25 Secrets About Disney World The Execs Would Never Tell Us.” TheTravel, 15 Nov. 2019, 

Stewart, James B. Disney War. Simon & Schuster, 2006. 

Episode 14: 973.3 – The Culper Ring and George Washington’s Spies

In this episode, Hailee is bewitched with the Culper Ring, George Washington’s secret spy ring credited with turning the course of the war and enabling an American victory. The Culper Spy Ring operated successfully in and around New York City for five years and the informants were never discovered. Even George Washington himself was unaware of their identities. Along with spies like Hercules Mulligan and James Armistead, the Culper Ring was responsible for preventing the plan of one of history’s most notorious traitors and saving George Washington’s life more than once. And yes, there will be Hamilton quotes.

Recommended Media

  • Decoded – History Channel
  • George Washington’s Secret Six: The Spy Ring That Saved the American Revolution by Brian Kilmeade and David Yeager
  • Washington’s Spies: The Story of America’s First Spy Ring by Alexander Rose
  • Agent 355 by Marie Benedict (Audible original)
  • George Washington, Spymaster by Thomas B. Allen
  • Nathan Hale’s Hazardous Tales by Nathan Hale
  • Rebel Spy by Veronica Rossi

If you’re interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our affiliate shop



Allen, Thomas B. 2004. George Washington, Spymaster. Washington, D.C.: National Geographic.

Gould, Kevin. 2015. “Culper Spy Ring.” Britannica. editors. 2009. “Revolutionary War.” History.

Williams, Ph.D., Victoria. n.d. “Culper Spy Ring.” Mount Vernon. Accessed May 5, 2021.